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Irony Is Dead: Fox News Exec Urges Staffers To Be "Fair" And "Impartial"

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  1. ken
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 14:40:00

    the only irony, is that you don't see what msnbc,cnn,abc,cbs,nbc and your local newspapers do everyday to brainwash you,that fox news is the only counter balence to a very liberal slanted view of america and the world,don't you care that half of obamas''czars''are anti-american and that the only one reporting ''the other side'' is fox news, are you this afraid of the truth.

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  2. sjohnson
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 14:51:00

    Ken,Bwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! I love the smell of hypocrisy on a crisp, fall day.

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  3. Snowy
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 14:53:00

    Thanks for the laugh.

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  4. Syrin from Wasilla
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 15:38:00

    Hi Ken…
    This is pathetic to falsly present some of these clips. Are you and FOX afraid of the truth? If the conservative view point in opposition to the 'liberal slant' can not be made responsibly and honestly, there is more than integrity missing from those who dispense it. A brain!
    Read Intellectual conservatism, RIP

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  5. ken
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 15:46:00

    that you have no problem with the liberal slant or the obama agenda is the problem.if you want to point out the slant in reporting,show both sides.not just the one that supports your liberal view point.

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  6. ken
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 15:52:00

    syrup, that people like snowy and madonna whole heartly agree with you,should tell you something they are the most liberal people on these blogs,they have both stated their approval of marxists ideals.why do you lead a life of self denial its ok if you want to be a liberal and i for one would have more respect for you for showing your true colors.

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  7. sjohnson
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 16:09:00

    Ken, first of all, don't put words in my mouth. I never said there was no liberal slant or that I had no problem with it. All news is slanted. However, Fox News has several "entertainers" (think Beck, Coulter, O'Reilly etc.) who tell outright lies. That you equate Fox News with the "truth" is laughable and irony at its best. Why don't you try a dose of "fair" and "balanced"? I suggest you look up the definitions first.

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  8. ken
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 17:18:00

    i have spent time watching cnn,msnbc and fox news,msnbc is sick they should not reporting the news or be allowed to provide entertainment.cnn is not much better,if they had made like comments on the marches for black or womens rights they would be off the air and in some cases in jail.fox comes closer to reporting the truth then any of the rest of them,that twice as many people watch fox as cnn and three times as many as msnbc shows that most americans see fox as a credible source of american values and it is in fact the only light in this dark tunnel of socialist filth that is being put out by the msm.do they slant some truths to make a point,maybe,woudn't you if you saw america being browbeat with the filth msnbc and others put out…

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  9. Inside_Passage
    Sep 22, 2009 @ 22:20:00

    You know, Ken, I actually have to agree with Syrin for once. It's the downfall of an ideology to fight dishonesty with dishonesty. I'll admit that it -is- present in other news agencies, and if Fox is going to acknowledge that and call others down for it, they should be better than those news agencies. The people they represent, supposedly conservatives, should demand it. It's supposed to be the -truth- that makes you better than them, and if you're just another liar, what's the point in whining about it?

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  10. ken
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 00:37:00

    you know i get it i really get it…2 wrongs don't make it a right.but after reading over a couple of hundred posts of syrups you have to see what direction she comes from,she is the fifth estate she has no morality she has no sense of right and wrong.much like all the communists/marxists/socailists now in the white house all she cares about are her goals.have you checked the past or present of everybody that obama has around him,they are all haters of this country every last one of them,if it doesn't show up in their lives its in their parents lives,not just one or two,all of them,evrybody that he brought with him from chicago is a hater of this country.now keep that in the back of your mind and see how little the rest of the media are reporting these facts..fox news stands alone,they are carrying the full burden of trying to get the truth out there.have you never told a lie in hopes of bringing things back to the truth.this is the only thing fox news is guilty of.you don't have enough posts up to make my point for me.but the girl that put up this post does,her entire blog is a lie,she has no remorse,she has no love for a free america,she would happily turn all of us into sheep.if i could find the lie that exposes to the world her lie i would gladly tell it.ispent the better part of 2 days backtracking jarret,ayers axelrod,most of them have reationships that go back 40 years,sometimes even further back then that to their parents who were members of the communist party.don't be fooled by this jackel,she has no truth other then what fits her objectives.does fox news have to stay close to the truth to avoid getting caught up in the same nightmares as the rest yes,but they stand alone they need every chance they can get to show whats really going on i won't call them on this,and i don't see any real american having any need to do it..

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  11. Snowy
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 00:38:00

    they have both stated their approval of marxists ideals.Care to provide a link to support that lie, little man? If you can't, then STFU. I only respond so that others can judge for themselves your credibility, or lack of.

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  12. ken
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 00:59:00

    and still the little marxist responds to me,just incase nobody here has seen your tripe all over vox.all they need to do is go to your own little blog and see you singing the glory's of the marxist mentality for themselves.cmon you remember the night i caught you trying to use jung to further your dreams of being a sheppard of mankind.

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  13. Snowy
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 01:20:00

    So no link, eh, ken. Sorry, but it isn't enough in civilised discourse to just throw unsubstantiated insults about. That is for school children and the ignorant.This is the grownups sandpit here, and if you can't conduct yourself in a civil manner, then you should really go back to the kindergarten sandpit.Apologies, Syrin, but I did feel I had to take this opportunity to show the little troll in his true colours. Mission accomplished. I won't be responding to him any more in this thread.

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  14. sjohnson
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 05:31:00

    The fact that you resort to kindergarten name-calling (Syrup) shows not only the disingenuous base of your remarks, but also your biased immaturity. You're on the wrong playground here. No children allowed without adult supervision. I'm wondering how mature you would think it was if someone referred to you as "Ken-doll," the emasculated playmate for Barbie. It would be a bit offensive and quite immature, no?

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  15. ken
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 11:18:00

    you want me to link you to your blog,run along little boy,i think i've already proved what a american hater you are.

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  16. ken
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 11:26:00

    at least two of the people on this post have used the ken-doll insult with you included it makes three,as far as a playground,is that really how you view your country just a big playground,don't worry about any mistakes,its just a playground the adults will come by and clean it up,.i've seen you on here before your views are not even your own your just a but munch,further proof of that is the fact that you either have no posts on your own page,or your to damm ashamed to show them off either way your a phony and a fool,lets just remember the stakes again its my country,not so sure that means your country as well but the stakes are my country.try to do better next time,or i might start confusing you with the likes of snowy and madonna

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  17. sjohnson
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 15:06:00

    Ken, you have hit a new low. Butt(notice two "t's" on butt) munch? Really? Playground was a metaphor, you neanderthal. When you have some time free from stroking your ego, take some English classes. You sound and write like an ignorant hillbilly. Is that the image you are trying to portray? My views aren't my own? Are you omnipotent? Wow! You are really just running off at the mouth. You don't even make sense. Also, I think you have me confused with someone else. It would be nice if you could grow some manners and engage in discourse like an adult. Your social skills are stuck at the junior high level.

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  18. ken
    Sep 23, 2009 @ 15:55:00

    hey look another walking spellchek,that you want to compare this county to a playground,and accuse others of missing metaphors,says everything i need to know about the liberal mindset.if you want manners show some until then issue your demands at someone else,i have no need of your edicts.

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  19. JBodine
    Sep 28, 2009 @ 22:48:00

    What did you hear, yourself.

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  20. JBodine
    Sep 28, 2009 @ 22:57:00

    Ah, the methodology of a fake. No link, no point. I notice you provide no link nor a actuall lie told on Fox. You do not listen or view Fox News. What would you know of Fox'x programming or what is presented there.
    There is a term for those that seek to find their solutions to human nature in government. LOSER

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  21. Inside_Passage
    Sep 28, 2009 @ 23:13:00

    http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.htmlNote that I'm not providing evidence for him, simply providing a related link, as it extends not only to Fox who defends their right to lie, but to everyone else in the media. Gives you great faith in media as a whole, don't it?

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  22. Snowy
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 01:27:00

    You do not listen or view Fox News. What would you know of Fox'x programming or what is presented there.Hmm, it's six days since I commented here, yet you now want to comment. I do think you are letting things get to you, to the extent that you have to troll on the few blogs that haven't blocked you….yet. Sad, really. Anyway, for the record I can view Fox News if I so choose. It comes to us by those things in the sky called "satellites". So, wrong again, Jethro, but keep trying. You never know, you just might get it right one day.

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  23. JBodine
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 07:05:00

    The article is poorly written. It insinuates at the start that the defendant is Fox News, which is a national cable channel. Reading thru the article displays the fact that the defendant is actually a local Fox (broadcast) affiliate.
    The point of the legal case was "whistleblower" status. Seems the plaintiffs were presenting a distorted report in line with their own agenda. And the truth was not it.
    We do not have available the pleadings and the (if any) evidence in support. No judgement can be made on this. The article fails to state the "claim" . The article itself presents a point of view that is "opinion" and not necessarily the facts of the issue.

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  24. JBodine
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 07:13:00

    Not everyone hangs on your every word.
    Hmm, seems you assume facts not in evidence as usual. There is a difference between Fox (broadcast) and Fox News (global cable, satallite). Your sarcasm in noted and is presented in its usual form. You speak from position of factual deficit. So typical of you.
    What's that, I hear you mama calling. Hope you are not in trouble.

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  25. Madonna
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 07:15:00

    Irony may be dead but Faux News' racism is certainly not.

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  26. Inside_Passage
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 07:47:00

    I'd like to point out that Fox News and the Fox in question are both subsidiaries of the same corporation, owned operated and directed by Rupert Murdoch. Lawyers for one act as lawyers for another. It doesn't matter that they're not the same – they're mouthpieces for the same person.It seems that your understanding of this case is limited. Sure, the main point of the case is the plaintiff's whistleblower status. And sure, the law supports that the plaintiffs can be forced by their employer to lie or distort and if they refuse to do so, they can be fired for it. That's the main point.There's more to the story, though, that should be clear enough.If you read between the lines, the implications are huge: No media outlet, Fox, NBC, ABC or otherwise is bound by law, rule or regulation to tell the truth. Every single one of them can lie to you as much as they like. Employees of News Corporation defended that right to lie. Faith in the media. Yay?Pretend that it isn't true and you're simply hiding your head in the sand because you don't want to acknowledge that the owners of Fox News insist on protecting the right to lie to you if they choose. Does that mean they did it now or recently? No, not at all. Why lie and get called on it when you can distort and fall back on "opinion" as an excuse?

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  27. Snowy
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 14:28:00

    Oh dear, Jethro, you really are even more delusional than usual. You said I can not view Fox News. I showed you that I can. So then you wander off into lala land by arguing "There is a difference between Fox (broadcast) and Fox News (global cable, satellite)." Fox News is either Fox News, or it isn't, and if you want to argue that it isn't, then I'm ,going to have to leave you to it. There's only so much of your drivel that I care to suffer. I'll leave you to argue with yourself that Fox News isn't Fox News.

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  28. Inside_Passage
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 14:45:00

    When he said that, Snowy, he was talking to me. He is correct in stating that WTVT is not Fox News, or even Fox Entertainment group, but both broadcasters are owned by FEG, which in turn is a subsidiary of News Corp. Same ownership, same representation. When we talk about Fox as a business, both financial and mission-oriented, we're talking about those things, not the Glenn Becks and the BIll OReillies.

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  29. JBodine
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 14:56:00

    Snowy, I said:
    "You do not listen or view Fox News" I did not say you can not do it. Do you have a reading disorder. How do you get that I said you can't, when I only said you do not. Read the article, Fox News is only mentioned once in the beginning. It was not a true statement.

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  30. JBodine
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 14:59:00

    Could you please provide an avenue for access to the information you have noted. It was not contained in the article.
    Also I would like to review the sources you used to know the business model of all the entities owned by Rupert Murdock. I do not wish to call you wrong without enough information to do so. I look forward to reviewing the info.

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  31. JBodine
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 15:00:00

    See above, forgot to hit "reply"

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  32. Snowy
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 15:13:00

    When he said that, Snowy, he was talking to me.Well, no he wasn't, IP. His comment was a reply to mine and he said, "You do not listen or view Fox News. What would you know of Fox'x programming or what is presented there."

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  33. Snowy
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 15:18:00

    How do you get that I said you can't, when I only said you do not.And just how do you know this, Jethro? More drivel. I'm outa here.

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  34. Inside_Passage
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 16:17:00

    Oh, fair enough, thought he was talking about the other bit.

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  35. ken
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 16:27:00

    i havn't been here in a few days,are you really trying to get snowy to commit to his communist mindset,has anybody told him that fox news is watched more then any other and that most people see it as more fair and balanced then any of the other ones.that the fascist obama people have found ways to make any opinion not their own illegal and that fox news has a hell of a job bringing things back around to the truth,if you look at the fact that they are the only ones reporting the ''right'' side of the story,they have my okay to bend the truth a little…after watching katie kuric trying to take glenn beck apart i remembered what cbs used to be all about, how every monday morning thats all everybody was talking about, who 60 minutes tore apart,what new truth they had exposed.now its fox news,it seems that cbs,abc and nbc have grown old they just don't care any more.they need to get out of the way and let fox news carry the ball,at least they care about a free america..

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  36. Inside_Passage
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 16:38:00

    I dislike using WIki as a primary source, but it's good for short facts, if not encyclopedic knowledge. Honestly, you could look this up yourself:1. WTVT, owned and operated by Fox Entertainment Group.2. Fox News, owned and operated by Fox Entertainment Group.3. Fox Entertainment Group, a subsidiary of News Corp. 4. Subsidiary, a business controlled (and owned in this case) by a separate business entity.5. Business entity in question is News Corp… 6. … controlled by Rupert Murdoch, who is chairman, primary shareholder and managing director. The Power That Is. 7. Peter Chernin, is the CEO of Fox Entertainment Group and COO of News Corp. 8. Chernin's VP, Michael Regan, is in charge of the legal division.Now, perhaps you can sit there and suggest that Rupert's business model could be slightly different than Chernin's. I might even agree with you, except that Rupert ultimately calls the shots, and even if he didn't WTVT and Fox News are controlled by Chernin. This means that the power in charge of Fox News defend the right to lie, because their lawyers act at their direction. Chernin's the lowest common denominator in charge. The chain of command is right in front of you. It's all sourced, and you can look it up on "better" sources if you think I'm wrong.In other words, cut the crap. You're being exceptionally lazy or outright dishonest. You could have looked this up yourself. It took me a bare five minutes to look up the original response, maybe 20 to source everything.

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  37. JBodine
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 17:08:00

    You are still alledging facts not in evidence. What is the lie that you have the problem with. The were terminated and they sued for wrongful termination. They lost. Who lied and to whom about what?
    This information is not in the article. I assumed you had access to the pleadings and the evidence in this case. I would say cut the crap and stop worrying about who owns what. You state someone lied, meaning you know the full particulars of said lie and be forthcoming with it.
    I agree you know nothing about Mr. Murdocks business model. You rely on the input of others. None of whom you can vouch for to surmise how it all works.

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  38. Inside_Passage
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 17:23:00

    I'm having a hard time believing you're so thick you really can't understand what I'm saying.I didn't claim anyone lied. I said FEG's representative lawyers defended the right to lie in the media. That right to lie is the reason the lawsuit was dismissed. The media aka FEG is allowed to lie whenever and however it wants, therefore the people suing have no case. Do you get it now?I never said anyone lied, you know full well I didn't. Cut the crap. Your inability to understand what I am writing is a failure on your part, not mine.

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  39. ken
    Sep 29, 2009 @ 17:46:00

    are you talking about the case down here in fla. they didn't give them a right to lie ,just a right to omit the truth,what gives fox news a possible right to lie is obama's constant disregard for the constitution and this country's god given right to freedom.

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  40. Syrin from Wasilla
    Sep 30, 2009 @ 10:15:00

    Thank you for posting the links so the facts can be analyze and an educated opinion can be drawn.

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  41. JBodine
    Sep 30, 2009 @ 18:05:00

    And I'm saying that the article presents no evidence that anyone lied or had the right to lie. We all know folks lie and distort in the media. Just look at was and is being done in the media and right here on this blog in regards to Sarah Palin.
    You take the article as gospel truth, I don't. I said we don't have the pleadings and the evidentuary submissions to review to make a proper judgement. All we have to go by is the article, which is the writers opinion of the subject. It is just interesting how selectively you decide who is truthful and who is not.
    I must surmise that you have never presented a case in Court or defended yourself in court. I do hope you are not so naieve to believe that Courts are all about the truth.

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  42. Inside_Passage
    Oct 07, 2009 @ 08:59:00

    You're saying that because you apparently have no grasp of the concept of "reading between the lies." That's right. The article never does say that, because the article didn't go that far in depth. But basic logic will tell you that it's there in what wasn't said. I do hope you're not naive enough to believe that just because a newspaper didn't say it, it's not so. See, that's the difference between me and you – I'm not taking that article for gospel. You are, because you're insisting that because the article didn't say that, it's not true. Again, remember that I never stated anyone lied. I said they are defending the right to lie, and no, the article doesn't back me up on it. It's not an arbitrary decision, it is using mh critical thinking skills to figure out what it means.If it is not against the law to say the earth is flat, I have the right to say the earth is flat.If it is against the law to commit murder, I have no right to commit murder.It is not against the law to lie, therefore I have the right to law. Basic reasoning skill.That's right. I'm not a lawyer, I've never had to defend myself in a court of law. This isn't a court of law, and I don't have any intention of living up to a standard of proof beyond a shadow of a doubt or any other high and mighty legal standards. My critical thinking skills are more than enough to work this out. No opinion required.

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  43. JBodine
    Oct 07, 2009 @ 16:41:00

    If you say so. If you desire to create your own reality free from the constraints of it. More power to you.
    I will personally stay grounded in reality and explore explaination in the search for the truth. If it is not forthcomming, so what.
    BTW. It is against the law to lie. Ask Martha Stewart.

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  44. Syrin from Wasilla
    Oct 07, 2009 @ 18:47:00

    FYI- I met a world renowned author and columnist who is quite close to Mr. Murdock. I have it on good authority…. No way, No how is Sarah Palin ever going to get a gig on FOX NEWS! You'll be hearing more about that author coming up in this next year as Sarah 'half baked' Palin lives dangerously.

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  45. Inside_Passage
    Oct 07, 2009 @ 21:09:00

    Perhaps in your fantasy world the media lying to us is the same as perjury in a court of law, but back here in reality it is not. Either you're playing semantics games with the intent of dishonesty, or you're not bright enough to recognize the difference between your fantasy and reality.

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  46. Syrin from Wasilla
    Oct 07, 2009 @ 21:17:00

    It's just me, but I'm gonna say JBo is not bright enough to recognize the difference between fantasy and reality.

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